I'm currently using Evernote for all my notes and pdfs. Whenever I need to find something I search there. I utilise a flat structure (3 notebooks and no tags) and rely on search when I need something.
I recently discovered Raindrop and would like to start utilising that.
What I haven't figured out though is how to combine these services? To me it seems counterproductive to have to search two systems when I need something, instead of searching just one system.
How have you integrated your bookmarks manager with your notes app?
I think I might be able to contribute something useful here. So, some background, I am a CS undergrad student and in the past 4-5 years I've been jumping from one tool to another, which basically involved checking the features of each tool(and its alternatives like Pocket-Instapaper) multiple times each year.
This year finally getting some clarity on a great workflow. The Roam Research community is a big part of that as a lot of people have really great workflows (i'll try to attach some links if I can find them, otherwise ping me later on twitter)
First of all, yeah Raindrop's awesome. I upgraded to the PRO version this week. Now, my workflow will basically involve Instapaper, Raindrop, Readwise(necessary glue component), Roam Research( could be Notion/Evernote too)
So, in case you are not aware Raindrop has Zapier, IFTTT integrations. I'll attach the link below for your convenience. So, i treat Raindrop as a dumpyard, resource collector/curator, anti-library. Now, think of Raindrop as your newsfeed, if you want to read some articles add #toread OR #instapaper tag (or whatever you want) to it.
Raindrop connected with Zapier can send articles to Instapaper (or for that matter any other highlighter supported like Pocket) which have a certain tag. Then, read, highlight take notes on Instapaper. Connect Instapaper to Readwise, and Readwise can then export your highlights, notes, author, other metadata to Notion/Evernote/Roam.
So, Raindrop is the collector. Instapaper is the reader. Readwise is the glue b/w them and your final database(evernote/notion/roam)
There can be some variants of this, but taking into account Price, Feature parity, developer teams, export,API functionalities I fully endorse this setup.
In case you're worried about newsletters, for that i've attached someone's blog, YT channel(has an IDEA factory video) below. He uses Inoreader for that(RSS), I personally have a Gmail label,filters with all newsletters.
The reason I took Raindrop PRO and call it a library/anti-library 🤷♀️ is because when I want to read on a topic, I can search the term, the full-text feature(yes it saves, archives all contents of a page) will give me articles on that topic, I can quickly add a tag, say #instapaper in bulk to all of them and then read on Instapaper(zapier sends them here).
Readwise is super useful for resurfacing your old highlights (it has spaced-repetition), it can also save twitter threads, and most importantly integrates with a ton of services acting as a glue.
I had tried Readwise back in the summer for 2 month trial, didn't activate the paid plan back then since I wasn't reading much at that time, and as a student have to watch my expenses too. But now I am considering getting it.
Below I've attached some links which you'll definitely find useful. In case you need anything more specific, feel free to ping me on Twitter🙂: https://twitter.com/shacrw_
I was going to write this whole setup thing as a blogpost in Jan/Feb, this turned into a pre-release😅. Please, let me know if this was helpful. Thanks.
These days I use Notion for both, but it's a bit of a pain because there's no Safari extension to send pages to it.
I have a "Articles" list in notion, and I add the content of articles there from my iPhone or by copy/pasting. It's a bit painful, but at the same time, I can improve the formatting (when there's code in it) and also add notes/highlights.
I then visit my notes and reference the article, which is really easy in Notion (using @ + typing the article's title). This automatically adds a link back to the note. So if I reference the article in multiple notes, I see them all as I open the article.
It's a bit painful because I have to actually do something with the article instead of sending it and forgetting about it. But in the end, I think it's better because I know future me would never really revisit this article and do something with it. So it's a good test to know if I really want to keep the article, and it forces me to organize my knowledge base.
One cool option I’ve been using here lately is the new MyMind bookmarking app. You can bookmark websites, and it automatically saves a ton of metadata about the site (and automatically finds stuff in images as well, such as colors and broad categorization of what’s in the photo), so you can search and find sites again more easily even if you forget the site’s exact name. Then, you can also type in text notes, or even add color hex codes to bookmark almost anything you’d like to remember.
Now, it’s not the app you’d want to go back to and write more detailed notes; you’d still want Evernote or Notion or a writing app like iA Writer for that. But it’s interesting from a “save everything in one place” perspective.
I add links to Safari's free reading list and use iCloud to sync them across all my devices.
Reading list keeps track of read and unread links.
I add links to my personal notes if they form part of my research into topics I'm interested in or if they are instructional (e.g. how to change kj to cal on my Apple watch).
I like that the Reading list is sort of a temporary thing with no way to tag or organise links. Otherwise it turns into another dumping ground. It forces me to actually read the links and do something with the "good" ones.
I really like Raindrop. It's an attractive way to review links I want to keep, if not as utilitarian as pinboard. I try to keep a division of labor; Raindrop keeps sites I might want to refer to as a resource and I've tried to revert to holding any 'read it later' content into my archive which is DevonThink. I only pull possible thoughts on those into my notes (Roam).
I know Evernote and DevonThink both do bookmarks, but whenever I've tried that they get lost in other materials.
I use Notion for this and the add-ons for both Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge works very well.
You can share a collection in Raindrop.io as an RSS feed, then use IFTTT to create or append a note in Evernote if you want to have the benefit of Evernote search. I do this with a collection and notebook I call "Stack". Anything I come across that I want to remember I just save it to a stack collection and it gets sent to my Evernote.
There are lots of great responses with valuable information on this thread. This is a topic I'm always researching because I do feel there is a bit of a tooling gap there.
My current workflow is broken down by content type. For me, a web article and a pdf I download should have the same workflow. I need to bookmark it, but I also like to keep a cached copy for full-text searching and a way to annotate and extract annotations. Reading is active and requires highlighting and annotating. For this part of the workflow, I've tried Evernote, Notion, DEVONthink, and countless other tools (Raindrop, Polar Bookshelf, Google Bookmarks, Instapaper, Pocket, Pinboard, and probably more). There is always a gap. All of these started as something (notetaking, bookmarking, highlighting/annotating), they still handle that core aspect great but struggle to put the entire knowledge management piece together. In some cases, live with Evernote and DEVONthink, you can come really close, as all the features are there. But the workflow ends-up suffering. Highlighting a web article in Evernote is doable but it's not very easy and it's difficult to extract annotations. DEVONthink can also handle most tasks, but it struggles with multiple devices and is Apple-centric, something I tend to avoid.
My current workflow has all my note-taking and organizing in Roam. I do at time use the Roam-highlighter extension to grab important stuff from a website and add to Roam. I also store URLs in there, when relevant. But it's not my bookmarking.
For now, all my bookmarking and annotations are stored in Diigo. It's a bit old-school and not very sexy but it does what I need. Stores bookmarks, can cache entire articles so I can search them later, can annotate web content and PDFs.
I have not, as of yet, found a way to centralize my annotations but Readwise is cute. I currently annotate in one of three places: Kindle for books, Diigo for web and pdfs and Paperpile for scientific papers.
I've been using Notion to save links to a custom wiki by team and topic, then I parse the important ideas over to Roam for editing. Roam works great for mind mapping and organizing ideas, and as a daily personal kanban. I didn't love the UI but editing the CSS makes it feel customized.
I added a note to @shacrw001 below, but think I might be better off adding here. I'd like a workflow/tool for 1. highlighting and annotated media (articles etc) in a read it later type application and 2. uploading media, along with highlights and annotations to Raindrop I will add to Raindrop group too. Thank in advance!
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